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Post by kevin on Jan 26, 2006 12:15:22 GMT -5
..i dont get it?
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Post by SINISTER FUNKHOUSE on Jan 26, 2006 14:31:16 GMT -5
this whole "boo when a band gets popular it bothers me" thing gets on my nerves sometimes, is all.
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Post by downtheliffey on Jan 26, 2006 14:42:35 GMT -5
evaluating greatness of art is moot (this coming from a former art snob.) quibbles about the popularity of a band or work of art are moot (unless that popularity somehow changes the work of the artist--then it might have SOME relevance.) its snobbery. judgement is moot. the idea that anyone can own an experience is ridiculous and sooooooooo capitalistic.
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Post by kevin on Jan 26, 2006 14:53:32 GMT -5
well im not exactly saying "boo when a band gets popular", seeing as how ive been a HUGE fan of the smashing pumpkins, radiohead, bjork, beck, etc... but its disheartening to see ten million young teenage girls fall in love with something that was so personal to begin with.
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Post by amputee on Jan 26, 2006 15:09:05 GMT -5
"the greatness of art" is the only thing on this entire planet worth getting worked up over. rome came and went but bernini still blows my fucking mind and i still want to dig up matisse and cut his worthless throat.
it can be argued that the surreal qualities of an a.g. rizzoli drawing become less exciting with every new livejournal post, that the feeling of an impotent virgin drawing his mom in the form of a church becomes routine somehow even though you thought that was impossible;
and it can be argued that the emotion in a francis bacon portrait dies bit by bit whenever some vacuous stooge gets another book deal and uses the money to buy a better ipod or porn dvds or blue jeans or whatever the hell. it's a totally valid frustration;;;
the concept of art as something "personal" is threatened by going to a show, or whatever else, and finding yourself in an endless sea of preteens spending their parents' money.
i see what you're getting at (and i agree to a point) but narrow the scope of your proposal.
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Post by dr. strangelove on Jan 26, 2006 15:40:18 GMT -5
i don't necessarily dislike bands who are popular, but i have been a rather big fan of bands, and my enjoyment of their live shows has been ruined by the mainstream (see modest mouse, for example)... it's not that their music becomes worse (although some bands do change once they reach popularity), but i think anyone would agree that a small intimate venue is far better for a band you really love
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Post by downtheliffey on Jan 26, 2006 16:04:53 GMT -5
"the greatness of art" is the only thing on this entire planet worth getting worked up over. rome came and went but bernini still blows my fucking mind and i still want to dig up matisse and cut his worthless throat. it can be argued that the surreal qualities of an a.g. rizzoli drawing become less exciting with every new livejournal post, that the feeling of an impotent virgin drawing his mom in the form of a church becomes routine somehow even though you thought that was impossible; and it can be argued that the emotion in a francis bacon portrait dies bit by bit whenever some vacuous stooge gets another book deal and uses the money to buy a better ipod or porn dvds or blue jeans or whatever the hell. it's a totally valid frustration;;; the concept of art as something "personal" is threatened by going to a show, or whatever else, and finding yourself in an endless sea of preteens spending their parents' money. i see what you're getting at (and i agree to a point) but narrow the scope of your proposal. no--the painting is still the same. youre argument seems to interpret my statement as "art is not important" which is not at all what i said. i said evaluating the greatness of a particular work is moot. this is not the statement of a dilettante--i used to be an art hist/lit major at northwestern (before abandoning the irrelevant discipline of art criticism.) |
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Post by byronhulcher on Jan 26, 2006 19:33:34 GMT -5
I have nothing against popular bands, just popular fans.
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Post by enjoy on Jan 26, 2006 20:56:36 GMT -5
nothing sucks like popularity. i dont know if anyone else has been a bright eyes fan for a long time (pre-'lifted'), but it sure does suck to see all these fucking teenage girls eat up the music that is meant to be private and beautiful, and now i have to deal with people thinking that im some kind of bandwagon kid because i listen to him/them. OK. so I went through this with radiohead, sigur ros, dfa1979...and today I just found out animal collective is sold out before I could get tickets. the first shows I went to, no one came out, it was a little pathetic, now I cannt even get in. I still have tiny hope that XiuXiu will not get out of control popular because of the intensity or graphic content---we will see, at the last show there were actually people who talked during hives hives! who does that? |
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Post by Animals! So Weird on Jan 26, 2006 21:10:33 GMT -5
talking during hives hives? wtf
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Post by J to the M on Jan 27, 2006 5:02:50 GMT -5
I went through this with Menudo, Britney Spears, Dave Matthews Band, and the Hurt...and it was super wearing on me. Popularity is like a robot you have to fight off as it approaches your village waiting to destroy it. No one should ever.....ever....ever have to experience popularity. It is truly horribly sexually awesome.
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Post by eyeless on Jan 27, 2006 5:05:39 GMT -5
evaluating greatness of art is moot (this coming from a former art snob.) quibbles about the popularity of a band or work of art are moot (unless that popularity somehow changes the work of the artist--then it might have SOME relevance.) its snobbery. judgement is moot. the idea that anyone can own an experience is ridiculous and sooooooooo capitalistic. tada... i'm going with this answer. |
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Post by SINISTER FUNKHOUSE on Jan 27, 2006 11:08:07 GMT -5
nothing sucks like popularity. i dont know if anyone else has been a bright eyes fan for a long time (pre-'lifted'), but it sure does suck to see all these fucking teenage girls eat up the music that is meant to be private and beautiful, and now i have to deal with people thinking that im some kind of bandwagon kid because i listen to him/them. OK. so I went through this with radiohead, sigur ros, dfa1979...and today I just found out animal collective is sold out before I could get tickets. the first shows I went to, no one came out, it was a little pathetic, now I cannt even get in. I still have tiny hope that XiuXiu will not get out of control popular because of the intensity or graphic content---we will see, at the last show there were actually people who talked during hives hives! who does that? i think BARR is opening. the lee's show, right? as soon as i heard he's opening, i thought i'd get tickets. but i guess not. |
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Post by byronhulcher on Jan 27, 2006 18:01:50 GMT -5
it's probably a stupid thread topic, but whatever. Just reading that amuses me after 6 whole pages of such talk. On the subject of zelling out, I'm afraid Xiu Xiu might not. they don't have the sound for screamo or pop-punk. And 90% of people I show them to (probably upwards of 60?) look at me weird for it. The other 10% dig it immensely. I will still be buying their records and sending them letters no matter what. |
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Post by passenger on Jan 28, 2006 17:13:29 GMT -5
Jan 25, 2006, 10:44pm, sithie wrote:nothing sucks like popularity. i dont know if anyone else has been a bright eyes fan for a long time (pre-'lifted'), but it sure does suck to see all these fucking teenage girls eat up the music that is meant to be private and beautiful, and now i have to deal with people thinking that im some kind of bandwagon kid because i listen to him/them.
I AGREE YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH. i hate that.
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