byronhulcher
Go Away
and I'm waiting for him to arrive.
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Post by byronhulcher on Jan 17, 2006 19:20:00 GMT -5
I love the valley, Ohhhhhh! I will never be able to listen to that song with a straight face again. And I just learned it all on guitar too. |
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eyeless
Pretty Girl
no formation
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Post by eyeless on Jan 17, 2006 20:18:53 GMT -5
there are strong elements of homosexuality and mental illness in the music... likely a thread on how many fans had serious mental problems would garner a good bunch of us to raise our hands and show some scars. it's certainly where i come from and by which i enjoy the xiu...
though one needn't be either...
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Post by beryann1 on Jan 17, 2006 22:22:28 GMT -5
only three or four songs mentioning gay relationships? i think you are wrong. i think you need to listen more carefully. well point out some specific examples then. these are the only songs where homosexual relations are memtioned. walnut house sad redux o grapher fabulous muscles i love the vally oh ( which i wouldn't really consider besides from the one line already mentioned). what am i missing? |
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Post by downtheliffey on Jan 17, 2006 22:50:04 GMT -5
brooklyn dodgers
brian the vampire (though its not about an amorous relationship as we all know)
sad pony guerrilla girl (there is clearly a duplicitous sexuality there, and not necessarily relevant, but JS's nick-name was "Sad Pony Girl")
fag patrol (as an album title)
the cover to a promise is emblazoned with the photograph of a gay prostitute
in terms of the other second-person songs without pronouns (ie. bunny gamer, and others) the gender of the addressed is often ambiguous.
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poe poe
Pretty Girl
your lovely head
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Post by poe poe on Jan 17, 2006 23:02:15 GMT -5
mostly gay.
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Post by beryann1 on Jan 18, 2006 0:18:58 GMT -5
brooklyn dodgers brian the vampire (though its not about an amorous relationship as we all know) sad pony guerrilla girl (there is clearly a duplicitous sexuality there, and not necessarily relevant, but JS's nick-name was "Sad Pony Girl") fag patrol (as an album title) the cover to a promise is emblazoned with the photograph of a gay prostitute in terms of the other second-person songs without pronouns (ie. bunny gamer, and others) the gender of the addressed is often ambiguous. we are ONLY adressing songs. names of albums and the cover of a promise doesn't count. and sad poney girl is without question "vague". there is nothing that points out that is male or female (although i have a hunch it's actually about a girl). i will have to read brooklyn dogers again, but i'm pretty certain it has nothing to do homosexuality. and bunny gamer i read, is about a female. i think your mainly just assuming. i think that since people know that jamie has written about homosexual relationships, all the gay fans assume all songs about people are written in context the gays. |
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Post by todd on Jan 18, 2006 5:12:20 GMT -5
i thought 'brooklyn dodgers' was about jamie's cousin who moved to new york? jamie felt bad because he wasn't very close to him.
i remember reading that somewhere.
but i could see it as a story about two young boys, and one boy is scared of being gay and leaves the other boy.
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eyeless
Pretty Girl
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Post by eyeless on Jan 18, 2006 5:19:03 GMT -5
one can read into the lyrics where there are no obvious genders, or vague suggestions of gender, and attribute those involved as gay. that jamie has writen previously of homosexuality invites one to do so rather easily, though if he'd never done so or if he writes something with a clear heterosexual couple you can still read into the lyrics for gayness....
i believe there is a bit in the fan interview where he and caralee talk about how they relate to the songs and perhaps what they mean. there is still alot left up her and she talks about this being important. this vagueness contributes add to why the songs are so intense. each of us must add from our own feelings to fill in the meanings. if ones experiences, loves, and anguishes involves lots of cock then you'll be colouring in those gaps with a phallic shaped crayon... perhaps caralee can rock out to that or perhaps she thinks of it differently....
as such there isn't much of a point to go through each song and catagorize them as being ----- or ~~~~~
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Post by jimmy on Jan 18, 2006 5:24:37 GMT -5
sex with anyone other than myself is gahross
unless it is in the butt. and then, well then butts dont have genders. but vah way ways=yuccccccccccccccccccccccck central
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Post by kevin on Jan 18, 2006 7:41:59 GMT -5
not mentioned yet:
yellow raspberry is about sexuality.
saturn makes mention of it.
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Post by downtheliffey on Jan 18, 2006 10:53:37 GMT -5
agreed--the idea being that sexuality is clearly a motif, in all its manifestations. jamies songs arent all that often written about romantic homosexual relations due to the fact that jamie isnt writing songs about romantic relationships. however homosexuality and bisexuality are clearly important motifs.
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Post by beryann1 on Jan 18, 2006 11:30:19 GMT -5
i thought 'brooklyn dodgers' was about jamie's cousin who moved to new york? jamie felt bad because he wasn't very close to him. i remember reading that somewhere. but i could see it as a story about two young boys, and one boy is scared of being gay and leaves the other boy. yeah, that's right. i remember reading that interview. another one is ian curtis wishlist. that song is about jamie meeting a girl and wanting a romantic relationship, but the girl lived in portland and moved back. and told jamie it would'nt work or whatever. i read that in an interview as well |
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byronhulcher
Go Away
and I'm waiting for him to arrive.
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Post by byronhulcher on Jan 18, 2006 17:40:18 GMT -5
I always thought the beehive was just a general pain. I assumed it was a spanking from a stern father, honest to god.
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Post by nacht on Jan 21, 2006 21:35:05 GMT -5
wow sithe you get panic attacks too? rock i'm having one right now! we have to start a club
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Post by todd on Jan 23, 2006 0:45:31 GMT -5
not mentioned yet: yellow raspberry is about sexuality. saturn makes mention of it. in saturn, he says "i will stab it right through the bottom of your mouth. you will taste what we taste." ya know? stick a cock in bush's mouth? jamie also mentions sticking it in his anus. i'm too lazy to move and get the lyrics. |
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