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Post by eamas on Sept 8, 2020 16:18:26 GMT -5
I think Owen mentioned somewhere that they were too costly to print to be worthwhile as merch. Unfortunate, because I'd love a book like that. Especially a He Poos Clouds scorebook would be amazing.
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Post by unctious on Sept 8, 2020 18:01:59 GMT -5
I was asking about recordings of the songs--I already have the In Conflict songbook  |
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Post by Owen from Final Fantasy on Sept 9, 2020 13:52:24 GMT -5
I've toyed with the idea! The piano adaptation of "In Conflict" particularly is really nice, I think. I might do them as IG videos sometime this winter if I'm snowed in |
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Post by eamas on Sept 10, 2020 16:11:13 GMT -5
Oh! My bad, unctious! I misread because I forgot the In Conflict scorebooks were already a thing. Never got the chance to buy one  I would love to hear that. |
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Post by diego4533 on Oct 14, 2020 18:50:29 GMT -5
Hi everyone! Any news on the physical release of Island? Is the plan still to have Island available this year and the other releases / surprises on 2021?
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Post by Owen from Final Fantasy on Oct 16, 2020 18:23:48 GMT -5
We're gonna have pre-ordering up next month, for January delivery! There was a hold-up... I accidentally approved an incorrect track order and we had to get a new test pressing  There are gonna be new videos and shit in the next month, too... some really beautiful stuff imho  |
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Post by diego4533 on Oct 16, 2020 22:24:39 GMT -5
Haha, how unlucky for us! The full artwork on the physical releases really intrigues me. Can’t wait for the preorders! Will there be more instagram videos coming too?
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Post by eamas on Oct 20, 2020 3:37:48 GMT -5
Are we ever going to see an official release of We Went Criminal?
Also, if you don't mind addressing this, obviously the lyrics addressed Lewis and his crimes against uuuhhh god, but is there an additional intended meaning about the criminalization of queerness? or am I overthinking?
(tbh I think I heard it before I knew Island was a Lewis album & this is what I thought it was about)
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Post by Owen from Final Fantasy on Oct 20, 2020 18:45:07 GMT -5
@ diego, I don't have any plans for any more IG videos. This isn't to say that I might do more... I'm just doing a lot of client work these days (and finishing some, like, VIDEO videos!) I liked doing the IG videos around the album release, but the George Floyd murder and subsequent protests drew my attentions elsewhere. That said, there are upcoming live performances that will be featured in other outlets. I did a REALLY good one back in September that should be live before the end of the year. (The friends I've played it for have told me that they put it on repeat after first viewing, they liked it so much.)
@ eamas, are you asking about the relationship between "We Went Criminal" and the Spectrum narrative? there is no connection! "We Went Criminal" is a one-off. I did end up recording the song, and it will be tucked away somewhere, yours to discover!
If you're asking a larger Q about Lewis' "crimes against God", well, that's not really how I see Lewis's murder of Owen, and I don't think that anybody in Spectrum (including Lewis) sees it this way, either. Owen may have been a benevolent deity (or maybe not) but Spectral society is old-school-- it's a patriarchal monarchy ("The queen has born us only daughters"), it seems to be highly theocratic-- the deposition of an individual-in-power (even a deity) is more commonplace than it would be in our contemporary society.
Furthermore, in the figurative sense, Lewis and Owen are the same being, really, two protagonists within a fictional narrative, of equal weight. Owen's murder (and apparent resurrection) are meant to tie in to more abstract ideas-- "the death of the author", "the separation of id and ego", "the space between conscious and sub-conscious".
I think I stated upthread that Heartland examined the relationship between "creator" and "work", and Owen was effectively Lewis's creator, and Owen's death was itself Lewis's narrative creation. Island examines the relationship between, essentially, separated lovers-- Lewis was so adamant that he was never gonna give "it" to Owen, whatever "it" is, but he pretty much gave up everything to Owen at the end of Island after a long period of loneliness and introspection and alcoholism, he allowed himself to get fucked into space, so...
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Post by eamas on Oct 21, 2020 3:54:28 GMT -5
Oh, thanks for your super thoughtful answer to my silly question. After I found out that Island was a Lewis album, I took it as such a given that We Went Criminal was about Lewis that my use of the term "crimes against god" was facetious. I mean, under the assumption that it's a Lewis song (which I had assumed), "We Went Criminal" would be a sort of funny way to refer to the very nuanced narrative of Lewis' actual actions in Heartland and Island, so I was just rolling with it. retrospectively, knowing that it's a one-off makes more sense LOL
But I really appreciate you getting into that nuance, more light on the worldbuilding of Spectrum in particular is always amazing to hear. Thanks as always Owen! And super jazzed to hear the song, I loved that one. Spent way too long trying to figure out the lyrics until you hopped in with them earlier in the thread.
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Post by deerful on Oct 21, 2020 5:22:30 GMT -5
Furthermore, in the figurative sense, Lewis and Owen are the same being, really, two protagonists within a fictional narrative, of equal weight. Owen's murder (and apparent resurrection) are meant to tie in to more abstract ideas-- "the death of the author", "the separation of id and ego", "the space between conscious and sub-conscious". This is a hell of an answer to eamas's question, and I'm glad the reason I get Owen and Lewis constantly mixed up in the narrative isn't just that I'm bad with names.  (I also want to draw attention to how interesting the meta-narrative happening in these posts is -- deliberately or not, the act of Owen writing this thoughtful response is a kind of resurrection of the author/reconciling of the creator and work in and of itself, right?!) |
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Post by Owen from Final Fantasy on Oct 21, 2020 11:51:54 GMT -5
Ha yeah. "We Went Criminal" is kind of an anti-Lewis song, no? "I wonder how long it will take until / I find myself a dog, a house, a car, a wife" like bitch you left that shit behind back on Track 1 of Heartland
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Post by Owen from Final Fantasy on Oct 21, 2020 12:46:49 GMT -5
I could type forever about my plans for Spectrum Album #3 but I'm gonna hold off
I want LP6 to be another detour album and come back to Spectrum for LP7
But I've already figured out how all this is gonna end and it's gonna be crazy
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Post by eamas on Oct 21, 2020 14:13:46 GMT -5
I feel like this is finally the time for me share my prediction for LP7: lewis becomes brad j lamb "When he was a young man, he conjured up a firemare And burnt off both his eyebrows and half a head of hair" (having learned that I am too dry to read, this time I am going to preemptively add the disclaimer that this is a joke)
Anyhow, I'm really glad that my misunderstanding about Lewis Song vs Not Lewis Song was able to become productive discussion. Best forum. |
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Post by kit on Oct 21, 2020 15:13:09 GMT -5
I could type forever about my plans for Spectrum Album #3 but I'm gonna hold off I want LP6 to be another detour album and come back to Spectrum for LP7 But I've already figured out how all this is gonna end and it's gonna be crazy Being in this forum is like not telling your parents you want a guitar because you don't want to be pushy and then having them surprise you with a Martin D-45, $5,000, and a bag of sour skittles I'm so excited |
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I would love to hear that.
