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Post by dana wr on Jul 5, 2004 2:40:57 GMT -5
yea i just saw it.
it has its moments, and is super interesting. i wish i wasnt up till 7 this morning drinking..i might've been a little mroe wide awake and receptive..ha
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Post by Dio on Jul 6, 2004 14:52:44 GMT -5
hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahaha! oh man, that was a good one. are they as respectable as the grammys?
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Post by wiley on Jul 6, 2004 20:32:50 GMT -5
"aww, a grammy"
"dont throw your garbage down here"
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Post by Steve M on Jul 7, 2004 0:50:18 GMT -5
wiley, stop making up words
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Post by wiley on Jul 7, 2004 13:45:57 GMT -5
dont make me stephanopolous you.
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Post by Arkham on Jul 7, 2004 15:53:14 GMT -5
i saw fahrenheit 911 last night and i was impressed. best propaganda film i've ever seen. i think it was a step up in quality from bfc though some parts were really annoying. that woman whose son died annoyed me sort of. sometimes she seemed intelligent, other times she seemed like a bit of a narcissist. i think most normal people would be uncomfortable bawling their eyes out over and over and over knowing that it was going to be seen in a film that would be seen on a very large scale. extremely disturbing when they would show body parts and burning corpses being beaten with sticks etc and then cut to some happy-go-lucky 50's pop tune over a shot of bush saying "bring em on" or something like that. i understand the irony and all but it came across as fucking sickening and i had to step out of the theatre for a smoke to cool off. overall i believe this was an important film to be made. there were many points that i found fishy (largely to do with the business connections) and like bfc there was too many over-simplified remarks that were hit home with dramatic juxtapositioning techniques to show the evil of war or politicians with a two second clip of something said that was probably out of context in the first place. however, it did show a first hand picture of the civilian casualties in iraq and painted a fairly decent portrait of what a typical soldier would be like and what his perspective of the war would be. i was disturbed by the film but in a way that made we want to learn more rather than believe the emotional sensationalism moore was trying sell so overall i give this film a 7/10 (which is well above the rating i would give most of the mediocre bullshit hitting theatres in recent years. spiderman gets a 5/10)
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Post by dana wr on Jul 7, 2004 22:34:31 GMT -5
i like how they listen to the Ozzfest comp....
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Post by neilsucks on Jul 8, 2004 11:26:38 GMT -5
i didn't. it sure did show how insensitive and impersonal the us troops are in regards to the war. made it seem like a video game. fucking sick.
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Post by r-dub on Jul 8, 2004 14:19:54 GMT -5
neil. i think that was the point. i just don't agree with war in any stance.
i'm sure not all soldiers are like that, but i wasn't suprised to see a bunch of americans acting that way. i've talked to many republican americans that talk that way, talk about killing 'those people' and 'nuking them' etc. it just seems like brainwash to me. fools.
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Post by neilsucks on Jul 8, 2004 14:59:51 GMT -5
yeah, i'll clear up what i meant. i liked how mike showed that they listened to that. i didn't like that they actually listened to it.
and you're right, it is all brainwash. from a moral standpoint it's just patriotism forced into place above humanity. fuck i hate americans. sometimes, i totally realize how cool it is to be canadian. fuck i love it.
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Post by Stuci Firme on Jul 8, 2004 15:51:03 GMT -5
i love being canadian too.. yesterday i got an $85 GST cheque in the mail!.. GO CANADA
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Post by Arkham on Jul 8, 2004 16:14:25 GMT -5
fuck i hate americans. sometimes, i totally realize how cool it is to be canadian. fuck i love it. you're a jackass. this is so typical of beer-commercial-proud canadian youth. saying you hate americans is goddamned ignorance. the only reason you realize how cool it is to be canadian is out of anti-american sentiments which is pathetic. find a reason why you like your country apart from simple-minded comparisons of a culture we copycat anyway.
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Post by neilsucks on Jul 8, 2004 17:14:14 GMT -5
i hate americans because i talk to them all day and honestly cannot stand the way they are. i'm not ignorant. i just really, honestly, trully don't like the manor they portray themselves. and i'm not saying they're all jerks or anything, but most of the people i talk to like being american is so elite and often have very little sentiment for anyone else. it's seems like to most americans anywhere outside of america is some other world that doesn't actually exist. it's all really unsettling to me. i'm not a jackass or ignorant. i just really dislike most americans.
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Post by Arkham on Jul 8, 2004 18:27:42 GMT -5
i just don't agree with war in any stance. what about WWII. ya know, all those dudes who were trying to take over the world and kill the non-whites.
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Post by wiley on Jul 8, 2004 19:25:56 GMT -5
everyones the same. ignorance doesnt end on the 49th parallel.
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