The Punks Zine - Abbotsford, BC

[skza]

religion is bullshit. and now....a song:

Atheist Anthem, by Leftover Crack

From high up on yer crucifix
You preach about my triple 6
You spit about my this and that
And yank away yer welcome mat
With a coupon jesus christ will save
So don't you christians misbehave
'cuz santa makes the list himself
And he's rotting on the warehouse shelf

And all the boys in the straight-edge scene
are in the basement huffing gasoline
Dead, dead, dead, dead
Yer god is dead to me!
And when the laws of God just make ya pissed
You better become an atheist
Dead, dead, dead, dead
Yer god is dead to me!

When the greed of man is not appeased
All will rot sick and diseased
Once again the fallen towers
The Tortured death of every hour
And at the toll of the final bell
You lead the righteous down to hell
When all the world is dead by dawn
All I ask is bring me along!

And all the boys in the straight-edge scene
are in the basement huffing gasoline
Dead, dead, dead, dead
Yer god is dead to me!
And when the laws of God just make ya pissed
You better become an atheist
Dead, dead, dead, dead
Yer god is dead to me!

Nuclear Apox spells your doom
like the t.v. in yer living room
each bomb kills a million dead
it melts your skin and implodes yer head
And now you get yer judgement day
You think you'll float up then away
But yer guilty just like everyone
You turn to ash when the burning's done

And all the boys in the straight-edge scene
are in the basement huffing gasoline
Dead, dead, dead, dead
Yer god is dead to me!
And when the laws of God just make ya pissed
You better become an atheist
Dead, dead, dead, dead
Yer god is dead to me!

There's a hunger within you
a tapeworm deep inside
or maybe it's just cancer
the doctors can't decide
but yer stomach keeps on growing
as yer body wastes away
and yer getting ill & weaker
every single fucking day

we are alone
we are alone

[Kenneth]

Psalm 14:1
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.

[neilsucks]

fools,
come up with your own supporting arguement. songs, poems and religious literature do not count.

[jonny hughes]

kenneth: that last post i made was my last response to anything you've ever said.

obviously i still judge, even though i don't want or mean to...nobody is perfect like christ. and OBVIOUSLY i try not to judge as hard as i can.

also, i'm so sick of your walls, dude. it's completely worthless and pointless to argue with you.

i agree with josiah that christians need to be accountable.

rww: yes, kenneth is wrong by saying certain people will never get to heaven. that is bullshit. people, according to the bible, can accept jesus as their saviour even though they're "pompous" like, apparently, me.

to everybody: bless you, and please don't let random nonsense stay in your minds.

jonny

[MrBad]

Ken, dude.
Be spirtual, not religious.

[Lisa]

Kenneth,
you have yet to answer my inquiries.

1. How old are you actually?

2. You have hopped the fence on whether you are actually religious a couple times on this thread, so which is it? do you believe Christ is your Saviour? or do you just like to say that yeah I am down with Jesus, and I will randomly quote the bible, and offend the actual christians on this board? So are you "religious" or not?

[skott]

neilsucks said:

fools,
come up with your own supporting arguement. songs, poems and religious literature do not count.

but they sure do offend people.

guess what kids. my god could beat up your god. my god's son could also beat up your god's son. booyah. Odin and Thor would waste God and Jesus anyday. and you know what else? when i die, i get to go to Valhalla and party with vikings.

[neilsucks]

but skott you forget one very important thing: god is godpal

[Kenneth]

I will use this post to briefly respond to the several of you who have recently posted or requested information.

Stu,

Please stop deleting my post of Mark chapter 5. It's not fair.

Lisa,

I am disappointed over the fact that you feel qualified to pass judgment after only "loosely following" this thread.
I challenge you to go to the beginning and read every word by everyone so you can get up to speed on exactly who is who and what is what. While you're at it, please read everything under the 'Confessions of an ex-Christian' thread also. My age is on my website.
I'll invite you to do a little homework on that one.
I work from home, most often, which provides me some time to participate in this forum. Regarding my statement that I am not religious, the explanation is very simple. I relate to the words religion or religious in the same way Jesus referred to the Pharisees. It holds negative connotations for me. When I say I love the 'truth', I am defining the truth as repentance of sin and trusting in Jesus as Lord, God and and Savior as being the only way of salvation. I believe that is the absolute truth and I love that truth. In the category of 'truth' I would also include the entire text of the old King James Bible which I consider to be the Word of God. Just because I have talked more about my beliefs on some days than others does not mean I have been contradictory, as you suggested. In terms of articulating my beliefs, I have been absolutely consistent from day one. I find your statement "Personally I am finding you rather offensive to my faith, by doing what you are doing." regrettable when you haven't even taken the time to read everything. If you take the time to read everything as I have suggested you do, you will better understand why I have seemed serious a lot of the time. I am actually a very fun-loving person with an irrepressible sense of humour. I hope this clarifies things for you.

burnhamchop,

I didn't call jawknee a liar. I said if he denies being guilty of 'ageism' he is a liar, and I never said he's going to Hell. I simply stated that the Bible says there won't be any liars in Heaven. I have an ego like anyone else, but I certainly dont have a 'tremendous' ego, as you suggest. Contrary to your assertion, I don't take this "message board stuff" as if it were life or death.
I am not the sort of person to tolerate being constantly derogated without having something to say about it, however. jawknee should apolgize for being rude and derogatory towards me without provocation and at 18 years of age, he is no 'kid'. He's old enough to vote and join the armed forces. I'm not childish, as you suggest, at least not in any bad way. It is true that I am incredibly young at heart and playfully adventurous for my age. It might surprise you to learn that I have taken this forum with a 'grain of salt' from day one. With regard to you statement "if you act like a fool, people will treat you like one in my experience.", I have no doubt you have learned this lesson from personal experience. With regard to "seeing kenneth's daily rediculous statements help to give me some perspective.", I think some of your statements are ridiculous. We're all entitled to our opinion.

r-dub,

I'm glad your mom thinks you're cool. It shouldn't been any other way, and you should always love and honour your mom and dad too. With regard to my sense of humour, I would have been more accurate to say that for many years a great many people have singled out my sense of humour as one of my outstanding traits. They have also commented on my youthfullness and unboundable energy.
I hereinunder quote one of your entire posts including a quote from me:
"It is true that I have stated that certain unrepentant types will ultimately go to Hell, just like the Bible does, and even stated my opinion about people who I believe are in Hell already"
"doesn't the bible also say something about jesus forgiving sins and dieing for them...so that we don't have to go to hell.
i'm confused on this contradiction.
please explain, oh wise kenneth. or anyone else for that matter."
The Bible says:
1 Corinthians 6
8 Nay, ye do wrong, and defraud, and that your brethren.
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Revelation 22
14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.
16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

The Bible clearly identifies types of people who will not be in Heaven, just like I did. With regard to naming names of people I think went to Hell, I have heard many preachers say Hitler and Stalin and others were in Hell. I don't think there is even one of us who believes in Hell who doesn't think Adolph Hitler is there. You are absoluely correct to note that the Bible says our sins were paid for by the Blood of Jesus Christ and that if we repent of our sins and trust in Jesus as our Lord, God and Savior, we will be saved and be with Him in his paradise for eternity. It is such a beautiful truth.

Stu,

I just explained to r-dub how people 'let Jesus into their hearts' and what is at stake. I sincerely hope that somehow through this conversation you get saved.
I don't know exactly why, but in my heart I feel moved to pray for you.

skza,

I hope you find the truth before it's too late for you and all the people you might influence with that satanic filth you spew. I feel truly sorry for you. Jesus loves you.

jawknee,

With regard to "also, i'm so sick of your walls, dude. it's completely worthless and pointless to argue with you.", frankly, you just don't know what you're talking about. Believe it or not, that is not me at all. I also believe everyone is accountable, to God, and I said so. Relative to "rww: yes, kenneth is wrong by saying certain people will never get to heaven. that is bullshit. people, according to the bible, can accept jesus as their saviour even though they're "pompous" like, apparently, me.",
I have never said that certain people will never get to Heaven. I already addressed this in my response to r-dub. With regard to "to everybody: bless you", I would say 'May God bless everyone pertinent to salvation and in all the good they ever try to do. With regard to "please don't let random nonsense stay in your minds.", Amen and I couldn't possibly agree more.

MrBad,

Re: "Ken, dude.
Be spirtual, not religious."
I couldn't possibly agree more.

Lisa,

I have already addressed myself to your concerns at the beginning of and throughout this post. I hope you're clear on my position now.

skott,

There is only one God. Jesus created the universe and loves you enough to spill his blood to keep you out of Hell and make a way for you to go to Heaven. Thor and Odin, as entertaining as they are, only live in peoples minds and comic books.

neil,

You're right God is the best 'pal' we could ever have.

Ok, everyone, I hope this helps clarify matters.
On a personal note, I would like nothing more than to be friends with every one of you.

[forsythe p. jones]

Kenneth said:

Lisa,

I am disappointed over the fact that you feel qualified to pass judgment after only "loosely following" this thread.
I challenge you to go to the beginning and read every word by everyone so you can get up to speed on exactly who is who and what is what.

kenneth,

you have got to be on crazy pills if you think everyone's reading everything in your posts.

i don't even understand why you're writing as much as you are. you pretty much reply in the first couple of sentences and then seem to get caught on a whole different story, and start rambling about pretty much nothing.

even though i have add, i think i'm speaking for most people here when i say that your posts are long, boring, and for the most part, completely pointless.

cool.

[forsythe p. jones]

and you said that you have friends, too.

so why don't you have a list of them on your website?

seriously. every city has its share of assholes and junkies. why the list? i don't get it.

[Kenneth]

X-PAC,

You are certainly entitled to your purely subjective opinion.

Some of my friends are identified on my website and 'The List' is self-explanatory.

www.thepunks.com/thelist.html

[forsythe p. jones]

no, the list is not self-explanitory.
i have a hard time understanding its purpose because it seems completely worthless.

[neilsucks]

i've been a victim too, ken. mutiple occasions. and trust me, i've felt like turning the world against them too. but after my rage subsided and clear thoughts rolled in, i realized it would be immature, useless and frankly not much more honorable to publicize pure disdain of my position. i decided to keep my venting and ranting to myself and my close friends. i think that's kinda where xpac's coming from. i think. correct me if im wrong x, baby.

[forsythe p. jones]

yayaya