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Post by sarpedon on Jan 16, 2010 21:16:52 GMT -5
Hahaha! Guys, I certainly don't want to fall out with anyone here, but I'm a wolfboard member, too, and a fairly 'faithful' one at that. In an 'I'm not so keen on hearing anything bad about it and have been there a few years' kind of way. We don't all love Patrick Wolf, either. Or even like him, at all. 'Tis a mad world. And you even have a slightly lurking Wolfboard moderator among you. I do however agree with the fact that Patrick seems to have given a lot of his originality, humble personality and talent to the birds and therefore, Owen wins over fans this time around. At least I think that's what's going on with the sudden influx of people on here. That being said, I've listened to FF/Owen Pallett for almost as long as I've been a PW fan. And yes, the Wolfboard used to be a nice place, but now it's more or less just 16-year old girls posting photos of themselves and starting polls. Sorry if I offend anyone from the Wolfboard by saying this, but it's mostly true. /end of pointless off-topic rant /t Agreed, I stop posting there a while ago.
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Post by nocturn on Jan 17, 2010 9:06:14 GMT -5
And you even have a slightly lurking Wolfboard moderator among you. I do however agree with the fact that Patrick seems to have given a lot of his originality, humble personality and talent to the birds and therefore, Owen wins over fans this time around. At least I think that's what's going on with the sudden influx of people on here. That being said, I've listened to FF/Owen Pallett for almost as long as I've been a PW fan. And yes, the Wolfboard used to be a nice place, but now it's more or less just 16-year old girls posting photos of themselves and starting polls. Sorry if I offend anyone from the Wolfboard by saying this, but it's mostly true. /end of pointless off-topic rant /t Ahh, I've only been back a day and looked round for a short while last night, but it didn't seem that bad! It depends what you want from a forum, really. What you said about Wolfy himself is very true. It's not a very fair or helpful basis for a board when the artist has steeply descended into crapness and no-one cares anymore. I'm not gonna try and defend the forum... I'm there because I have great friends there. I'm here because I like Owen Pallett's music. But seriously, people here are so lucky that Owen is a nice guy, and he comes on regularly to be polite and answer fan questions and such - and not occasionally, to butt in, tell you that you need to visit a prostitute, throw a hissy fit, say that he hates you all and he's going to quit, etc. Also, y'know, that Owen still makes good music. Back on my original point, though! They've never worked together. Journalists often say that they have. Weird, eh?
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Post by Lis on Jan 17, 2010 9:08:14 GMT -5
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Post by Ren on Jan 17, 2010 9:25:55 GMT -5
What I want to know: if everyone likes it so very much, why does it keep getting 86%/A-/4 outofapossible 5 stars? C'mon! If there is an album which deserves Full Marks it is this one.
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Post by vestenet on Jan 17, 2010 11:58:59 GMT -5
What I want to know: if everyone likes it so very much, why does it keep getting 86%/A-/4 outofapossible 5 stars? C'mon! If there is an album which deserves Full Marks it is this one. Seriously. As a rule, though, (independent of me being a probably manic Owen fan) I tend to find a numerically-based grading system too inherently reductive, and I put far more stock into what the critic actually has to say. I mean, a review is necessarily a reductive exercise, but distilling an album or a movie down to a number more often than not rubs me the wrong way. For aggregation sites, like Metacritic, it makes sense, but otherwise I find it kind of absurd to do. Especially when you consider a site like Fitchpork, which grades on a 100-point scale--really, how much better is an 8.7 album than an 8.6 album, and can you really articulate what makes that difference? Also, Owen made a remark during his radio interview, I believe, that his best experience with Heartland had been jogging to it, and I have to second this. I put it on my iPod while working out last week, and it was awesome.
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Post by dot on Jan 17, 2010 12:24:07 GMT -5
Dot! I know Dot. Dot is awesome. Thanks What's your name over there? Thanks, I now get the reference. I haven't been on the wolfboard at all really in the last two months, but when I did go through a period of going on there more often there were certain threads I would just avoid. Also, forums do change a lot when people are mostly staying because of the friends they've made/ familiarity of the place and don't actually care about or like the artist the forum's about anymore. I suspect this forum will never get that way because, even though there is a nice community here, there aren't that many non-Owen related threads. But overall I actually feel quite indifferent to the wolfboard, it's not the best nor the worst forum I've ever been on. As for Wolf himself, I'm sure is a lovely person most of the time. But he can be a right idiot sometimes and it's never good when an artist's reputation of having a tantrum and throwing things at people on stage proceeds the music. Anyway, I'm rambling on, basically I agree with nocturn, that it's lucky for us that Owen seems consistantly nice and willing to come on here regularly and answer questions, give us unused lyrics etc. Back on topic, I agree with vestenet that numbers aren't really a good way of representing how good an album really is. I also think lots of reviewers don't like giving full marks even if there are no major faults with an album. I will have to try listening to Heartland jogging...though that does mean me actually going jogging...
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Post by nocturn on Jan 17, 2010 12:42:57 GMT -5
As for Wolf himself, I'm sure is a lovely person most of the time. But he can be a right idiot sometimes and it's never good when an artist's reputation of having a tantrum and throwing things at people on stage proceeds the music. I will have to try listening to Heartland jogging...though that does mean me actually going jogging... Exactly, you put it perfectly. And as for the jogging thing - I had that exact same thought Actually, I'm starting to think that I should step away from Heartland for a while, because I'm going a little stir-crazy at the moment, and listening to the same album on repeat all the time can't be helping. Thanks What's your name over there? lastgoodbye/ Florence
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Post by dot on Jan 17, 2010 16:20:01 GMT -5
Actually, I'm starting to think that I should step away from Heartland for a while, because I'm going a little stir-crazy at the moment, and listening to the same album on repeat all the time can't be helping. I'm throwing in the occasional Owen live set I have to break up my repetitive Heartland listening but I may have to have a break so I haven't over listened to owen just in time to see him in a week and a day. lastgoodbye/ Florence I can't remember what's already been posted in this thread so sorry if I'm repeating things: Short review from the times: His superb, spectral orchestral arrangements (for Arcade Fire, the Last Shadow Puppets and Pet Shop Boys) alone mean that Owen Pallett is a musician to be reckoned with. Yet the Canadian, latterly Final Fantasy, but now bearing his own name, is also a songwriter of rare complexity and ambition. His latest album updates the fantasy world of Spectrum, which he last visited on 2008’s 14th Century EP, with the insane, psychotic farmer Lewis here sharing disc space with a godlike character named Owen. Lewis Takes Action, pocked by pizzicato, flute and bassoon, is typical of Pallett’s approach: a languid Beach Boys croon delivers a narrative about wanton violence, as woodwind clamours discordantly and ominously. Heartland is mad and sometimes overblown, but it has the feel of a masterpiece. entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/tol/arts_and_entertainment/music/cd_reviews/article6986434.eceAnd a half interview/ half kind of introduction to Owen from the Guardian Guide: www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/jan/16/owen-pallett-interview-heartland
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Post by wingedwhale on Jan 18, 2010 4:53:52 GMT -5
Owen and Patrick Wolf have worked together, y'all. Owen played violin for him at that big show he did that was dramatic because he made it sound like it would be his last show ever OKAY
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Post by nocturn on Jan 18, 2010 10:19:19 GMT -5
Owen and Patrick Wolf have worked together, y'all. Owen played violin for him at that big show he did that was dramatic because he made it sound like it would be his last show ever OKAY Haha, I did say 'I saw them play live together once', and that was the show I was referring to, but... yeah, it so doesn't count, in any way. I was well excited at the time that it was 'the finale', his last show for ages, and that I'd got tickets! Then he announced a date for the following night. Awesome.
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Post by wingedwhale on Jan 19, 2010 20:43:23 GMT -5
Owen and Patrick Wolf have worked together, y'all. Owen played violin for him at that big show he did that was dramatic because he made it sound like it would be his last show ever OKAY Haha, I did say 'I saw them play live together once', and that was the show I was referring to, but... yeah, it so doesn't count, in any way. I was well excited at the time that it was 'the finale', his last show for ages, and that I'd got tickets! Then he announced a date for the following night. Awesome. Ah ha, sorry, didn't notice your comment! Oh, Patrick Wolf. You are a moody, flighty creature.
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Post by hansmoleman on Jan 25, 2010 19:12:12 GMT -5
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Post by ben on Jan 29, 2010 9:21:10 GMT -5
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Post by jules on Jan 29, 2010 13:03:53 GMT -5
"Heartland features enough great songs to forgive a little continuity glitches.".... It's not a film or a book...IT'S AN ALBUM!!!!!. In fact Disney is actually written in the ancient 14th century style of D'Isney or D'Eisney, and originally De Isigney, from Isigney, a small village near Bayeaux, in Normandy. Okay I made the 14th century thing up, but it just shows that if you have a broad mind, you can make any "glitch" go away
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Post by fireye on Jan 29, 2010 16:28:11 GMT -5
While this isn't a a review, per se, it's still relevant to Heartland. Studio360, from the NPR station WNYC, interviewed Owen back on Jan15th. At the end of the interview is a nice live version of Lewis Takes Action. www.studio360.org/episodes/2010/01/15/segments/148163
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