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Post by wiley on May 11, 2004 2:16:52 GMT -5
to all you pansies that whine about nutrients in other foods, how about this: i inject my delicious steak with everything i need to function normally, and you suck on a piece of steamed broccoli? who win's here? not some pinko crapshit save the whales animals have feelings pussy assed dickhead with half his mind on veggies and the other half on what animal would best fit around his weiner, oops, i mean carrot.
oh, and dont get me started on the atkins diet. LOW CARB BREAD? thats like having some sort of fucking low meat steak. what the fucking hell is up with fucking morons these days? anyway. atkins diet is a fad, but scientifically it does work, though long term use is not something you want to explore if you plan on having a functioning heart.
now, lets compare meals:
steamed broccoli, boiled cabbage, plain baked potato and a bit of salt and pepper for seasoning.
OR
medium rare juicy t-bone steak, baked potato's with onions, sour cream and butter, porkchops on the side, a bit of bacon, a little ham, a few sirloin stick-ka-bobs, and some other delicious delectables that required the death of an animal.
what a conundrum.
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Post by emmanuelxgoldstein on May 12, 2004 18:33:46 GMT -5
Ahhh... not quite. Atkins is horrible, you're right. Fortunately for me, I'm just a tall skinny dorky kid with massive metabolism, so I can eat an incredible amount of anything... and I do, regularly, when I can. In addition to everything I said before, here's a bit... Look at how far we've come in technology and knowledge... and we still have to kill animals just to survive? It's pathetic, when you think about it. Not to mention, human beings are capable of processing the thought, and making the connection that murder is wrong, and therefore eating meat is wrong. Animals don't have that ability, and humans certainly don't need animals to survive, by any means. By the way Chad, good call man. Goood effing call. Oh yeah, and Chad, you were asking me about our demo on Saturday at the Underwear Farm... I know things are really fucked up right now and I don't know what's going to happen with the band, but if you still want to listen... www.hxcmp3.com/bands/7721/The tracks are unmastered, but we recorded it with Andy Placek in his basement and it sounds decent. Not much chugg to it though. |
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Post by wiley on May 12, 2004 19:07:48 GMT -5
i find the means disgusting. the way the animal is slaughtered, the way it's raised, i pretty much hate everything about meat, except for the taste.
and animals eat meat not because they have no moral thought, but because its an easy source of energy.
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Post by emmanuelxgoldstein on May 12, 2004 19:23:59 GMT -5
That's certainly true. I just meant to say that, as with humans, if they were capable of thinking on that plane and all the rest, I'm sure there would at least be a small percentage of certain species that don't eat other animals.
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Post by wiley on May 13, 2004 21:47:57 GMT -5
why do you assume that animals are inferior?
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Post by emmanuelxgoldstein on May 14, 2004 0:55:24 GMT -5
Animals aren't inferior to humans. They're just different, if anything. If anything, by eating animals, we're stating that we're superior and have the right to consume them.
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Post by chad loin on May 14, 2004 12:13:19 GMT -5
I think that science would say that animals are inferior to humans in regards to their capacity to think abstractly. It's still about an industry based on such far from natural means of mass killing and the kind of shit that comes with our meat.
Back in the day they ate way less meat and it was actually an emotional experience when you had to kill a pig, cow or lamb that had become a family pet in a way (my grandma told me a story of her crying when they killed sheep). We've just become so detached, and wasteful. It's no surprise either to have people be like, "omg, but the taste...or it's not healthy". It's hard to near fucking impossible for people to do things that are beyond themselves, that might actually have a positive impact on other people or animals while sacrificing a little bit themselves.
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Post by wiley on May 16, 2004 17:51:10 GMT -5
back in the day? when? what are these statements based on? your grandmother probably cried because she formed an emotional attachment with a farm animal. if i was a farmer, last thing i would do is cuddle up next to my cows.
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Post by Dave on May 17, 2004 0:54:02 GMT -5
what if you were a really fucked up farmer and became sexually attached to the cows?
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Post by wiley on May 17, 2004 1:34:58 GMT -5
well then you'd obvious get a priest drunk as fuck and then get hitched. what a wild fucking night that'll be.
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Post by chad loin on May 17, 2004 2:56:51 GMT -5
It's based on reality dude. Nobody can pull a fuckin' knife to a goats neck and not feel a little twinge of regret when it cries out and gasps for air, choking on it's own blood. And if you can Mr.Wee Willey Buckhunter, you have issues that you need to work through. "Back in the day" you couldn't roll up to McAssburger and order nameless faceless meat to throw into you're rotting stomach.
and for those of you who think this lacks logic, you're wrong. The same people that got to Mcdonalds, go to wallmart or drive SUV's or chain smoke, in other words if you can't see that what you consume effects other living things, be they humans or animals...you lack logic. Tastes good shmastes good, convenience is the most obsurd cop-out, fuckin' man up and do something that's really punk for once.
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Post by dana wr on May 17, 2004 3:26:37 GMT -5
i cant get enuff of the mcdonalds 2 cheeseburger meal.
but i hate myself everytime i eat it.
its crap.
i hate going to mcdonalds for food when i know i can just go home, cook my own meal so i know exactly what goes on and be satisfied with it...
mcdonalds, hoenstly, if the worst thing to happen in ages...
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Post by Stuci Firme on May 17, 2004 14:35:31 GMT -5
i stopped going to mcdonalds after i realized that every time i ate there it wouldn't really make me feel full, but rather my stomach would feel like there was a heavy ball of undigested shit sitting in it...
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Post by wiley on May 17, 2004 23:39:51 GMT -5
hey chad, suck an egg? i dont eat mcdonalds. id rather get my antibiotics when i need them. i dont drive. if i did, i wouldnt buy a fucking SUV. you've obviously never heard me bitch. i dont shop for convienience, i shop when i need something. last thing i bought was a hoodie because it was cold out jackass. im not saying i wouldnt feel regret if i slaughtered an animal, but i sure as hell wouldnt ball my eyes out over an "emotional ritual" or whatever you called it.
but what i do like, is meat. nice piece of juicy steak. or a homemade hamburger. or perhaps a nice sausage. pastrami anyone?
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Post by wiley on May 17, 2004 23:42:54 GMT -5
and what the heck does punk have to do with vegetarians/vegans? far as im concerned, its about doing what the fuck you want to do.
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