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Post by kevin on Jan 21, 2006 22:20:27 GMT -5
i dont mean to burst some kind of liberal bubble, but anyone who says "fuck you" to an already angry cop and doesnt expect something to happen is an idiot.
im not defending "police brutality", which it really looked like it wasnt anyway, but people get what they deserve.
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Post by liontails on Jan 21, 2006 22:23:33 GMT -5
wow. i agree that saying fuck you to a cop is probably not the wisest thing to do but i seriously disagree that he deserved this.
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Post by Animals! So Weird on Jan 21, 2006 22:34:00 GMT -5
I like the title of the movie, haha.
and if you look at it from the pov of the cop, he's going into some crazy unkown environment with an aggressive/screaming singer, uncooperative owner, and there are tons of teens/adults standing around provoking him.
I didnt see the "brutality" (people were in the way) but saying "fuck you" to a cop is an aggressive/hotheaded thing to do, which ususally leads to violence. the cop was just preventing that.
i can see why you'd consider it brutality being there / knowing the guy, but from an outsiders view it just looks like the cop was being harassed and needed a quick way to clean up the situation.
edit / i do think the cop overreacted / was a general ass if thats any consolation
edit #2 / im digging this band!
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Post by SINISTER FUNKHOUSE on Jan 21, 2006 23:10:33 GMT -5
i agree with everyone here. don't fuck with cops, man. i've learned in my own ways.
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Post by brendanblarsen on Jan 21, 2006 23:30:19 GMT -5
it looked like a pretty normal arrest to me, dude. i had a cop grab me by the hair and knock my head off a brick wall once.
i'm not saying it doesn't suck, it's just the way things work.
the owner calling the cops over a sign doesn't really have anything to do with him anyway so i doubt it will amount to anything besides a night in the clink (at most) and a good story.
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Post by liontails on Jan 21, 2006 23:34:14 GMT -5
wooo you all win!
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Post by Animals! So Weird on Jan 21, 2006 23:39:51 GMT -5
... no one was an ass or anything, theres no need to delete the entry if you feel people should see it.
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Post by liontails on Jan 21, 2006 23:48:18 GMT -5
ahh fuck i'm just upset i just wanted to talk to someone about it because it was bothering me i'm sorry for wasting board space etc. and freaking out/ over reacting it's just i don't have anywhere/one to vent to this place is somewhere i feel really comfortable reading/spending time listening to what other people type. i was being hyper sensitive and i agree i shouldn't have deleted the post. i apologize for my acting crazy as i don't mean to annoy... i'm acting like an idiot for reasons both related and unrelated to this.
arg. =\ i hate doing dumb things
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Post by brendanblarsen on Jan 21, 2006 23:57:54 GMT -5
i didn't mean to come off as flippant or anything, i think after re-reading my post i might have worded it differently.
i guess what i meant to say is that cops and young people are never going to get along, and that makes things more fun sometimes, or at least less boring. if a show gets busted up it doesn't mean the world is going to hell it just means you're making a lot of noise and the law doesn't like it.
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Post by Animals! So Weird on Jan 22, 2006 0:00:14 GMT -5
im not annoyed at all. and thats why i thought it was so odd that you deleted it, because i knew you wanted people to know about it.
plus theres no such thing as board space. and if there was my "homophobic fans" would be #1. haaaa
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Post by byronhulcher on Jan 22, 2006 0:41:36 GMT -5
>_> I don't mean to be rude, but what are we discussing. I seem to remember reading about an extreme arrest, but not specifically where.
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Post by liontails on Jan 22, 2006 4:21:50 GMT -5
i'll repost the bulk of what i posted and then deleted in a hissy fit... if you don't feel like reading here is the link to the video: www.yahmosdef.com/movies/FTP.MPGthis was not written by me but by one of the bands that played the show: "So last night Yah Mos Def played a show in Williamstown NJ. The show was put on by this dude Alan who has been putting on great all-ages shows in the area for a long time. This was at a new venue that was owned by some other older dude. So during the course of the night some kid stole a sign from the bathroom. This was fucked up, because anyone knows we have to respect these places if we want to be able to use them as show spaces. But this was not Alan's fault, just some stupid kid being funny. But the guy who owned the place flipped out and called the cops. So while Amateur Party is playing, Alan comes in and says one more song. I guess the cops told him to wrap it up, and he came in to do so. So Amateur Party starts playing the shows last song, and one of the cops says "no, no more music". It is a confused situation. So Alan kind of just stands there and does not say anything, not knowing how to react. Captured in this picture:  So from here on out I have it on video. Since Alan does not respond, the cops says "that's it your under arrest and grabs Alan. He says something like "fuck you" cause the cop just grabbed him so hard by the neck, but did not resist or anything. All the sudden 2 other cops run and, and they all jump on the kid. I was fucking insane. People start taking out their phones and cameras and taking out pic tures. One of the cops starts yelling "put away your phones", and a kid in the crowd says "this is America" and the cop responds "I don't care, you're in my town now. WTF! He gets in my face and starts telling me to put away my camera or I will get locked up. I tell him to F' off, and that I work for a Law Firm (which I of course don't), but that I know my rights. The kid next to me, who I don't know, spits out the amazing line "I don't mean to be disrespectful, but we have the responsibility as citizens to record this". I love that kid. Anyhow, if anyone has pictures of info from last night please put them in a file and hold on to them. Even if you have memories you should jot them down in a word document incase Alan wants to sue those fucks. Man, Jersey Cops. See the video here: www.yahmosdef.com/movies/FTP.MPG" |
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Post by byronhulcher on Jan 22, 2006 12:21:22 GMT -5
Ah, thought this had to do with a new police beating race riot video or something.
So yeah, boo on cops, boo on sign stealers.
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Post by kevin on Jan 22, 2006 12:42:00 GMT -5
how many places did you post this? i just saw a bulletin on myspace with the exact same message content as your original post. the same links and same everything about "yah mos def" whoever they are.
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Post by todd on Jan 22, 2006 16:21:10 GMT -5
well, if someone grabbed me by the neck without a real reason, i would blurt out an obscenity too.
but those cops are douchebags for wanting to shut down the show because of a stolen sign. and for overreacting. he could have said, "hey. i said no more music" once more instead of grabbing alan.
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