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Post by guest on Mar 22, 2004 11:22:37 GMT -5
I was at the show at Tonic in NY on 3/20 and it was one of the WORST crowds I have EVER seen (tied for last with every other hip-ster infested show I've seen in New York - it's weird they don't show up for everything, but seem to flock to certain things in droves). Oh, how the Xiu Xiu crowd changed in the brief four and a half months since the last show at Tonic. I guess it's good for Jamie, but he didn't exactly seem happy with the crowd either. How could he have been? Drunk Williamsburg hip-sters screaming for "I Luv the Valley OH!" throughout the ENTIRE show and then screaming out each others names? If Jamie ever reads this, I have to apologize for that shit. I hope Jamie at least made a lot of money off those damn people with their $75 haircuts. Yick. Sorry, just had to get that off my chest. The band sounded very good, if a little distracted by the annoying ass hip-ster fembots and the raging disco going on downstairs. But who can blame them?
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Post by Jos on Mar 22, 2004 11:41:22 GMT -5
yeah - pitchforkmedia might be the best and worst thing that has ever happened to Xiu Xiu
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Post by 834th on Mar 22, 2004 20:37:23 GMT -5
Whoever Alex Dyke is, I'm going to find and kill her. Still, it didn't matter that much. You could hear even the retards at the bar go quiet when Ms. McElroy started whistling. Combined with bass from downstairs, it was weirdly awesome. Chalk me up too as one of the assholes who just heard the gospel. From the bleachers the publicity doesn't seem like such a bad thing. Otherwise I never would have heard.
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Post by guest on Mar 22, 2004 21:02:26 GMT -5
so you shit ice cream?
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Post by beeffire on Mar 22, 2004 21:47:39 GMT -5
ah sorry to hear that.
I heard about Xiu Xiu from pitchfork, I went by the review and decided to give it a listen, and I love it. I dont think you can generalize that a good review can be the worst thing to happen to a band , they are getting good exposure and hopefully people are buying their albums, I know I am.
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Post by Phil J on Mar 22, 2004 23:46:22 GMT -5
ah sorry to hear that. I heard about Xiu Xiu from pitchfork indie music = suck
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Post by todays quiet on Mar 23, 2004 7:02:57 GMT -5
yeah - pitchforkmedia might be the best and worst thing that has ever happened to Xiu Xiu ...I heard about Xiu Xiu from Pitchfork, and one of the member of my Smashing Pumpkins forum's adores them... The Pitchfork review, i guess, gave Xiu Xiu a lot of exposure. I downloaded a few songs, them some more (sorry) and now i am going to buy the album(s). But seriously, i thank Pitchfork for that review, i really do love this band. Anyway, that's my rant.
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Post by beeffire on Mar 23, 2004 10:02:40 GMT -5
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Post by Murmur on Mar 23, 2004 10:19:01 GMT -5
I sort of found Xiu Xiu through Pitchforkmedia. Long ago before 'the review(s)'. At the time, I think, there were only reviews from Chapel of Chimes and Knife play, but I didn't read them. Anyway, there was a link to Absolutely Kosher and by joining their mail-list they sent you the sampler cd, which included (surprise surprise) Xiu Xiu's J-Lo. That got me started. And my love for Bitchforkmedia and AbKo was aroused. PS. And Im a sad bustard because I live in Europe and so far away anyway that if Xiu Xiu would ever come to Europe it would still be at least few countries away from me. Well, that's why Im going to become a big corporate asshole so I can put up the money to afford to go watch them. I just hope their still around at the time and broking all my ideals and ethics haven't been done in vain. PPS. And Murmur is not referring to R.E.M. or anything other indie shite, eh And I guess I headed a bit off the subject so... Kiittää ja kumartaa.
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Post by Jos on Mar 23, 2004 11:46:27 GMT -5
yeah - pitchforkmedia might be the best and worst thing that has ever happened to Xiu Xiu Right - like i said might be the BEST and WORST. Obviously, those of us who heard of them through Pitchfork are glad that we did but there are people (really there are) who, scenesters, who will go to shows not because they are truelly interested in the music and their art but because its cool. Its the In thing. And the exposure from Pitchfork, and all the Coolness surrounding that site, make it easy for those people to identify the Next Big Thing. Don't get me wrong. I love Pitchfork. and the FM review was prob the best review i have read on that site.
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Post by Anonymous on Mar 24, 2004 22:54:43 GMT -5
Coolness? Surrounding? Where?
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Post by addictedtosound on Mar 25, 2004 0:06:27 GMT -5
hearing about all these 'horrible' crowds at xiu xiu shows seems so weird, i've never been to a show here in st louis where there was a large number of obnoxious folks and if ever a group of people start being obnoxious the venue owners are usually pretty awesome about keeping 'em in line.. i've heard some bands absolutely loathe this city so i suppose there get to be some pretty sour crowds at times but i can't imagine a crowd bad to the extent of what i've heard on this board, makes me slightly happier with this city.
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Post by original postman on Mar 26, 2004 10:48:56 GMT -5
New York can have some of the best and truly dedicated and respectful crowds. I have seen some of my favorite shows in New York during the six years I've lived here. It can also have some of the WORST crowds and least respectful people. I agree that they are only present to see the new, hot band. These people are hipsters and live off of trust funds in ridiculously overpriced lofts in Williamsburg, wearing ridiculously overpriced 'vintage' clothing, wearing ridiculously overpriced haircuts, and drinking ridiculously overpriced lattes. They are some of the most vapid, stupid people you will ever meet. Sigh. The cost of living in New York (which I do still love, because you will also meet the most awesome, generous and smart people here too - usually at the same parties and shows...)
As for pitchforkmedia.com, I have no problem with pitchfork. It's great to have a website dedicated to reviewing five new albums every weekday. I do have a problem with people who get their opinions from pitchfork and listen to crap solely because the pitchscribes say to. There are plenty of other great review sites, magazines and stores to go to check out new music (another great part about new york). I don't even think most hipsters read pitchfork, though I know quite a few who swear by it.
As for Fabulous Muscles' review on pitchfork (a 9.1 out of 10), I was honestly thrilled for Jamie. The review was pretty poorly written and I've read far more interesting takes on Xiu Xiu's music, but hopefully it gained Jamie plenty of exposure and sold a truck load of CDs for him. I know it's selfish and VERY stereotypical to hate the latecomers, but I was just sad because I'd never seen it happen quite so quickly before.
Anyway, that's that.
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Post by annabiotica on Mar 26, 2004 15:17:29 GMT -5
All the Pitchfork exposure definitely brought in a larger and more annoying crowd at Tonic than what was in attendance almost three years ago at Northsix (yes, gulp, in Williamsburg) when Xiu Xiu played with labelmates Semiautomatic.
In defense of myself as a resident of Williamsburg, I have neither a trustfund nor can afford a $75 haircut-- and have never spent, nor would want to spend that much on a haircut. I share my loft with two roommates and a cat, and take only soy in my coffee, please. But of course, my days of being able to afford living in this hood are numbered as those with deeper pockets than me drive the rent up.
Look for an upcoming review on PopMatters.com next week. Cheers.
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Post by dr. strangelove on Mar 31, 2004 3:15:39 GMT -5
ok, so this turns out to be the show that was recorded, and OH MY GOD! that has to be the worst audience i've ever heard on a live recording. especially that bitch near enough to the recording to be heard talking throughout the entire recording. however, for those of you unfortunate enough to put up with her and her ilk, there IS a bright side... she will go down in indie fame as "that chick that smoked too much and is all out of that chinese herb her mom sends her, so she's totally gonna feel like shit tomorrow" that's right... if you haven't heard the recording yet, there's a full four mintues of mostly clear but still inane conversations with her friend while jamie was having technical difficulties. And that show is now on mp3 and will be all over soulseek
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