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Post by was on Nov 6, 2006 7:52:40 GMT -5
Is there a time when it is acceptable to kill another human being? If so what are the circumstances? Who can perform the killing? Could you take a life?
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Post by Steve M on Nov 6, 2006 11:31:39 GMT -5
you still can in many places. its called capitol punishment. the farther we get into history the crazier it sounds.
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Post by was on Nov 7, 2006 1:04:13 GMT -5
Do you think it is right?
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Post by Steve M on Nov 7, 2006 10:57:53 GMT -5
no, i dont think killing people will stop people killing people. im not a huge scholar or anything, obviously,it just seems ridiculous. sometimes i dont know why i think or feel something. i would like to be more knowledgable. often, i find i struggle to explain why i feel somehting is wrong, or even right. i also believe in second chances.
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Post by Stuci Firme on Nov 7, 2006 17:21:29 GMT -5
i believe it's okay to kill someone if they want to be killed, i.e. euthanasia
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Post by Steve M on Nov 7, 2006 17:27:52 GMT -5
oh shit, see? i new id forget something.
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Post by was on Nov 8, 2006 2:18:33 GMT -5
i believe it's okay to kill someone if they want to be killed, i.e. euthanasia I agree 100 %, of course, only for terminally ill people with no hope of a reasonable quality of life.
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Post by was on Nov 8, 2006 2:21:16 GMT -5
no, i don't think killing people will stop people killing people. I'm not a huge scholar or anything, obviously,it just seems ridiculous. sometimes i don't know why i think or feel something. i would like to be more knowledgeable. often, i find i struggle to explain why i feel something is wrong, or even right. i also believe in second chances. Wouldn't it stop the person being executed from killing anyone else? I also believe in second chances, but I think they have to be earned, not given to all. If there is no hope for safe re-integration into society, and the person continues to be dangerous, do they really have the right to go on living?
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Post by Steve M on Nov 8, 2006 10:46:40 GMT -5
i like to think prison will stop the ponco from killing. im not sure how much anyone deserves to live, so i dont know.
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Post by was on Nov 10, 2006 2:54:55 GMT -5
I guess I just don't think people like Timothy McViegh and Saddam have lost the right to sit in jail. That death is the only means to keep us safe from them, and to prevent them from further burdoning society. I know pro-death penalty isn't a popular stance, but I think it is necessary.
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Post by Steve M on Nov 20, 2006 14:20:52 GMT -5
i agree that there are crazy crazies who might make one rethink the rules, but i still do not accept that humans cant think of a better way to deal with these peeps than just killing them.
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Post by Pre-invasion on Nov 30, 2006 21:29:28 GMT -5
Wouldn't it stop the person being executed from killing anyone else? Now the evicted person is being KILLED for doing so to another, the person who does the duty of putting this man or woman down like we would to a fucking animal when they've bitten or attacked another being would be committing murder as well. We don't look at it that way, as murder to the guilty.. because the 'law' says it's alright to do so. Anyone elaborate on that one at all?
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Post by Andy McBeer on Apr 23, 2007 16:54:12 GMT -5
I believe that if you don't have the strength to stop someone from killing you, and as such you ARE killed, then all the better for the gene-pool.
Now, this strength comes in many ways-- preventative, passive, active, what have you. It doesn't mean, "I can't dodge bullets so I deserve to die". It DOES mean, "I can avoid situations where guns are involved, or I can stand up and change a situation that might provoke someone into using a gun before it's too late".
Now, guns aren't the only killing weapons out there, but that is a fairly transferrable opinion.
It's a cold prospect, yes. But then again, I'm someone who believes we shouldn't help starving countries because we're keeping them overpopulated when they in fact, in all reality, should thin out so their own regions can support them.
The fact of the matter is that death, in all forms, is a common part of our life. It is a fantasy to assume that we can put an end to murder or war. There is no solution that will "fix" it, because it isn't necessarily a "problem" that needs to be fixed. It's a part of nature-- fight or flight, kill or be killed. Murder and war are natural ways of thinning out populations, of social evolution. We make our biggest jumps in industry, research, science, social structure, when wars are involved. We become more productive, more socially minded.
The question is not "how do we stop killing?" it's "how do we learn from killing?".
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