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Post by wgs on Jan 19, 2005 23:23:04 GMT -5
I agree with hollis,
It doesnt matter how old you are, im sick of hearing people say christianity rocks! and i dont believe in "christian music" you shouldnt need to trick people into being christian, they should want it regardless if its "hip" or not.
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Post by hollisb on Jan 20, 2005 1:24:21 GMT -5
Here's a short response for you. You're an idiot. Stop stereotyping people you know nothing about. Out of all the posts on this page, yours comes across as the most narcissistic. Stop trying to point the finger. you're probably right, it's sort of rediculous of me to be accusing people of writing massive posts about themselves when this whole thread started with a pretentious rant of my own but really... LAME. sorry but this reeks of indoctrination
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Post by snoitatnemaloffline on Jan 20, 2005 21:28:01 GMT -5
i dont remember saying christianity rocks and jesus is hip and stuff like that. i know i went on too much about a bunch of stuff and most of it was just whatever i was thinkin about at the time. im not tryin to trick anyone into being a christian. if you dont believe noone can force you. i apologize if it seems i have been forcing or tricking or whatever. For myself i know that God is real and is the creator of all things. i live by faith. i have chose to follow jesus and have given him control of my life.
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Post by whitfaceoffline on Jan 20, 2005 23:12:02 GMT -5
oh, i didnt mean you, just people in general who do that
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Post by snoitatnemaloffline on Jan 21, 2005 1:07:50 GMT -5
oh okay.
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Post by wgs on Jan 21, 2005 13:07:35 GMT -5
ahhh its driving me nuts trying to figure out what your name is, how its said or whatever!
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Post by neilsucks on Jan 21, 2005 13:46:31 GMT -5
ahhh its driving me nuts trying to figure out what your name is, how its said or whatever! hahah, me too! when i pronounce it in my head it sounds like "snot e-mail".....i think
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Post by snoitatnemaloffline on Jan 21, 2005 19:13:15 GMT -5
haha its lamentations spelt backwards and i pronounce it snoy-tat-neh-mal.
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Post by Ruby Soho on Jan 21, 2005 21:45:44 GMT -5
wow...it took you guys that long to figure it out....OUCH. Stop being so damn stupid.
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Post by wgs on Jan 21, 2005 23:15:15 GMT -5
hmm, iv kind of been working on that all my life
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Post by seanlame on Jan 22, 2005 0:20:30 GMT -5
Burnsauce!
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Post by Ruby Soho on Mar 22, 2005 20:14:05 GMT -5
i also realized that i really had no reason to be so full of hate and anger. i basically just wanted more from life and i found it in Jesus. I think it is interesting to say that you found what you wanted - being more from life - in Jesus. Has it ever crossed your mind that perhaps you were looking for acceptance, or your own little niche in this huge world, or something to save you from your downward sloping lifestyle? Perhaps you latched onto Christiannity because it was a safety blanket. It was something that you had known most of your life (angry or not) and that it was something your family (and likely those who surrounded you growing up), would accept without hesitation. But what if you had been raised in an atheist family? Do you honestly think that you would have found that comfort in Jesus so quickly? Isn't there a chance that you would have found that same comfort and well-being and love and whatever else you found in Christianity, somewhere else? What if you had become a member of something like a disaster relief team? Wouldn't it be fair to say that you would have gained similarly? You would be helping the less fortunate, you would be accepted by your peers and by those you were helping. You would have a reason to continue living. You would find love everywhere - in the people, the places, nature. You could have found some kind of Truth. Truth doesn't have to come from a book, or a preacher, or a peer, it can come from within yourself. Yes, you found it all in Jesus, and I am not saying that you are wrong, or that your rationale is flawed. Wouldn't it be fair to say, though, that it was simply the first place in which you found it? After finding Christianity did you continue to search and seek out opportunities that were just as rewarding, if not more so? You say to always question things, but I get the feeling that the questions you ask always have their answers in the Bible. Perhaps you need to question things which push your limits and your comfort - with answers that can't be found in a book.
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Post by Jonathan Rees on Mar 23, 2005 12:21:48 GMT -5
Jonathan Rees:- Yeah I'm ex-Christian too. I still go to church though just because I've got friends there, but I don't believe that Jesus rose from the dead, because these sort of things don't happen, I don't beilieve the miracles happened either, I have a general distrust of the supernatural. I find his teaching a bit extreme and contradictory like when He tells the rich man to give up all his money to the poor, I think well maybe he should give half his money to the poor and Be like Social Democratic but to be asked to give it all is a bit extreme(Incidently I wonder how all you American Christians justify your wicked Ultra-right wing Christian Coalition and Republican views in the face of this verse and the one about camels and needles and have a very strange idea of loving your enemies in Iraq and Afghanistan and went against Jesus teaching on revenge in Afghanistan. I think part of the problem is how God is potrayed in the old testament all the mass genocides and the flood commited by God and genocide commited by the Israelites. You might not think this is not important but the Bornian Serb Christians used this to justify the Atrocities commited by Bosnian Serbs against muslims. I think that Jesus teaching about sex is iniquitous and common sense should abhor it. Like Bertrand Russell I believe his taeching about hell and the agaonies therof is an iniquitous thing to tell children as the truth. The Bible is an important work of litrature there are a few good verses here and there like the good Samaritan, but it is not the word of god. I'm always careful not to give my local church too much money
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Post by snoitatnemaloffline on Mar 29, 2005 2:18:50 GMT -5
so if God is all knowing then he knew that the world would end up the way it is. he knew before he created us that there would be millions of people dying from disease and war and famine. he knew that many people would end up in hell.. why did he create us? does not god want everyone in heaven? god is supposed to be loving so why did he create a world (knowing the future) that is full of weeping and disease, etc... why would god create people knowing they are going to end up in hell? try to find an answer to that question that is not just an opinion... try and find an answer to that question and ones like it in the bible.....
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Post by 242 on Apr 5, 2005 21:21:00 GMT -5
don't know.. I'm not God. But it makes me sad except maybe for some people that suffer but I do like me better, after going through the suffering in my life, than before. Does that make sense? Is suffering all that bad, as in is love nowhere in the equation? suffering + heartache + confusion -/+ love = the point? sorry if I don't make sense... just one question too that I've been thinking about: I grew up in church too and looking back (now that I've actually been reading and learning the whole bible) I've realized that the "church" seemed to hide a lot or avoid what the bible says about certain topics. Does this mean that they don't really believe it? Because if they believed that the bible is inspired or written or whatever by God than wouldn't they not care about hiding what it says? Cause it's not on their heads what people think, they're just the messenger right? I like the church I've been going to cause they just tell you what's in the bible, no appologies and let you argue with God about it. It's not their lame ass, watered down, pretentious opinion. It's just: here's what it says, this it what it means, whether you like it or not. It's refreshing. But definetly not comfortable by any means. There just seems to be this "fear" of God that people are lacking... christian or not
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