Hi. I'm new here. I just wanted to vent. Pitchfork released their top albums of 2010 today, and Heartland didn't even make the honorable mentions!!! I was fully expecting it to appear in the top 10 at least. They gave it an 8.6, which, though too low in of itself, was among their highest ratings all year.
They clearly have lost their marbles.
Anyone have any insight as to why this complete oversight happened?
Eh, it happens. Ultimately, any year-end list is just opinion, and you really cannot fault a site like Pitchfork for having an opinion. I sure as hell disagree with it, and it would have been nice to see Owen receive some more recognition from them, but Pitchfork is not the be-all end-all of music journalism (and, honestly, they are not the best when it comes to analyzing and appreciating full orchestral arrangements in music).
I've been seeing Owen make top honors in other lists anyway, so there are definitely people out there appreciating Heartland as one of the year's best.
Post by JackAltman on Jan 10, 2011 15:20:34 GMT -5
OF ALL TIME.
I know this is probably the way wrong thread/forum to ask, but has anyone listened to My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy who would care to speak on its relative merits? For something that has made it to the top of a ton of year end lists, I know no one who will admit to having heard it. ..
Honestly, it converted me to Kanye West fan, when my previously limited exposure to the man's body of work did not leave me very impressed (i.e. I got mighty sick of hearing "Stronger" at every party I went to sophomore year). He knows how to make beats that I like listening to over and over, and the rapping is impressive enough that pretty much every song had at least one line that made me smirk or laugh out loud. It's over-produced every which way, but I like that complexity, although the mastering is very questionable throughout. The sounds and samples are just really impressively put together, and no two songs sound even remotely similar.
It's not a perfect album, but it's damn ambitious and damn good, and I'd recommend it even if you don't have much exposure to rap. As far as Kanye albums go, however, I think I like Late Registration more.
i don't know if this counts as a valid opinion, but my sister has been watching that super-video of his, the one with 35 mins or whatever, over and over again. and i have to say, while it doesn't sound all that bad, i wasn't drawn to it. maybe it's just personal taste here... heh
Post by Owen from Final Fantasy on Jan 11, 2011 7:24:20 GMT -5
Regarding "Heartland" being passed over: Nitsuh, who wrote the review and was my cheerleader at that website, left Pitchfork mid-way through this year to serve as music editor at New York Magazine.
I'm definitely on "Team Kanye" and I love any sort of outpouring of critical acclaim for any artist. Though obviously I'm not above occasional feelings of 'professional jealousy', these are far outweighed by a) warm feelings of support for friends and favourites who get the respect they deserve, and b) an acknowledgement of the fact that there are many, many more creative and interesting artists out there who aren't as fortunate as I am to have had the breaks that I have.
Kanye West being talked about on Owen's message board? My two greatest musical loves are unexpectedly combined!
I agree with Alpentine - "Runaway" and "Monster" are the two best tracks on MBDTF (and they really are amazing, with Monster being only slightly let down by Jay-Z's verse). The opening track "Dark Fantasy" is another highlight, especially Nicki Minaj's intro.
Now is there any chance of a future Owen Pallett/Kanye West collaboration, I wonder?
Sorry for being 3,000 years late on this one. I'm not sure, it's always seemed to me that Pitchfork can be really focused on opinion and controversy for the sake of it, regardless of musical merit. That said, 8.6 is surely a good rating!