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Post by I Am David Suzuki on Jul 24, 2010 13:48:42 GMT -5
According to D.P. Lyle, MD, a dead body cools at "approximately 1.5 degrees [F] per hour until the environmental temperature is attained".
Which would mean to hit say refrigeration temperature (~35°F) from normal body temp (98.6°F) you'd have to be bludgeoning in excess of 42 hours. Not even adjusting for any heat restored by all the repetitive impact.
That's a bit gross, Lewis.
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Post by names on Jul 24, 2010 20:28:44 GMT -5
Knowing is half the battle though.
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Post by JackAltman on Jul 24, 2010 22:33:13 GMT -5
♪"G.I. JOOOOOE!"♪
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2010 8:43:50 GMT -5
Liquid gold = Orange juice
Owen HATES Orange juice
Orange juice is a bludgeoners drank
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Post by Owen from Final Fantasy on Jul 25, 2010 8:58:12 GMT -5
David Suzuki you made my day.
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Post by I Am David Suzuki on Jul 25, 2010 13:43:04 GMT -5
Liquid gold = Orange juice Owen HATES Orange juice Orange juice is a bludgeoners drank See, it IS a concept album! David Suzuki you made my day. Excellence. |
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Post by heathenpoet on Jul 25, 2010 14:12:56 GMT -5
Not even adjusting for any heat restored by all the repetitive impact. Haha! |
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Post by Blue Imelda on Jul 25, 2010 14:32:20 GMT -5
It seems to me that after 42 hours, there wouldn't be much left to bludgeon. Would the body then cool faster because it was more...spread out?
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Post by I Am David Suzuki on Jul 25, 2010 17:38:59 GMT -5
It seems to me that after 42 hours, there wouldn't be much left to bludgeon. Would the body then cool faster because it was more...spread out? This gives me pause. I've emailed Dr. Lyle, MD in hopes that he or one of his listed lab experts will reply here with a conclusive estimate. |
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Post by names on Jul 25, 2010 17:42:58 GMT -5
I feel like at least one of the people involved in this thread is going to end up in the papers for all the wrong reasons.
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Post by joebonte on Jul 26, 2010 8:51:03 GMT -5
The blood leaking from the body would aid cooling via evaporation. Coincidentally sufficient bludgeoning would also increase the body's surface area to volume ratio, also aiding cooling.
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Post by names on Jul 26, 2010 19:48:56 GMT -5
Well I think it's become apparent that there are a number of variables we need to make an exact calculation. Clearly, this demands a follow-up song - or a Wiki link - that lays out all the environmental conditions satisfactorily.
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Post by kiwiball on Jul 27, 2010 2:06:08 GMT -5
I suppose that first we'll have to find out how cold it is atop that mountain.
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Post by I Am David Suzuki on Jul 27, 2010 11:47:33 GMT -5
Well I think it's become apparent that there are a number of variables we need to make an exact calculation. D.P. Lyle, MD agrees. Our exchange follows. Me: Greetings, D.P. Lyle, MD,
On a crime fiction forum there has been some dispute over how to estimate a dead body's cooling rate through continual bludgeoning. Your input would be greatly appreciated.
The discussion is here:
shzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=fantasy&thread=5867
Thank you. Him: I'm not sure Im understand the question. The beating would have little if anything to do with determining the time of death. Me: Thanks for replying. I agree the question was unclear.
Our curiosity is not time of death but rather rate of cooling after death, assuming the corpse is to be bludgeoned continually until a lower temp is reached. Would you presume the rate to be faster or slower than the 1.5°F/hr baseline for a body left untouched? One joebonte suggests, "The blood leaking from the body would aid cooling via evaporation. Coincidentally sufficient bludgeoning would also increase the body's surface area to volume ratio, also aiding cooling." Him: The denuding of the skin by the beating and the blood loss could hasten heat loss but not in any predictable manner. |
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Post by Thomas on Jul 27, 2010 12:18:54 GMT -5
weirdest thread in a while.
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