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Post by sajak on Aug 16, 2004 11:18:53 GMT -5
I don't think you understand very much about Americans, or their Politics. Americans act on the world stage only in their own interests, and take for granted that the rest of the world hates them. For us to tell the people of America that we are angry that they acted unilaterally against Iraq, is going to confirm for most of them that their man in the White House is doing the right thing. Americans firmly believe that they are the greatest, and most important people of the earth, and don't care what a bunch of "fur traders and lumberjacks from up north" think. No one is trying to say that Bush deserves another term, or even deserved his first one, but the point being made here is that the only effect we are going to have by voicing our opinions about it in this way is to help him, wether we're tring to or not.
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Post by chad loin on Aug 16, 2004 11:23:18 GMT -5
I definately do think that the Americans care that the whole world is laughing at their stupid president.
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Post by r-dub on Aug 16, 2004 11:37:30 GMT -5
sajak. i think the 'americans' you are refering to are mainly republicans who unfortunatly are a 'stereotypical' american. you are just as ignorant for thinking all americans are the same. it's just as bad as calling us "fur traders and lumberjacks from up north" when you know that's not true. time to stop the cycle.
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Post by neilsucks on Aug 16, 2004 11:42:20 GMT -5
which reminds me, ryan, you still owe me a mink coat for those 2x4's i gave you on thursday.
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Post by sajak on Aug 16, 2004 19:23:04 GMT -5
Yes, I am generalising about average Joe red-state republicans, but this is at least based on some knowlege of their country and politics, and personal experience.
Most Americans will never forget for one second that they are Americans, and everyone else is every one else. Anyone south of the border who cares what we think is likely allready planning to vote Democrat. Anyone inclined to vote Democrat is likely allready planning to go to the polls. Why put the undecideds on the defensive by presuming to tell them how to vote in an election for the leader of a country we don't even live in?
No one likes being told what to do. Especially by someone it doesn't concern.
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Post by Heloise on Aug 16, 2004 23:26:40 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that American policy makers do concern me as a Canadian.
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Post by sajak on Aug 17, 2004 11:39:02 GMT -5
You're twisting my words. Yes it concerns us in that it affects us, but no it does not concern us in the sense that not being American citizens, it's not our place to tell those who are how to vote in their election, and as I've stated before, and tire of repeating myself on, TRING TO DO SO IS GOING TO HAVE THE OPPPOSITE EFFECT, IF ANYTHING. A lot of you seem to have the impression that I don't realise the importance of Bush not being allowed to serve another term, and this couldn't be further from the truth. However, as Canadians, the best thing we can do, and all that we have a right to, is to stay out of it, and rightly so.
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Post by JohnnyRansom on Aug 17, 2004 15:13:37 GMT -5
I don't think you could be more possibly wrong. So, basically, you want to sit on your ass and do nothing, when there is something that you could be doing. Where you get the idea that this petition is going to encourage them I don't know. I'm not American and unfortunately even though who gets presidency will affect me and the rest of the world, I can't vote. So signing this petition is at least something I can do to protest George Bush being in the White House again.
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