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Post by Steve M on Dec 18, 2002 15:18:24 GMT -5
kill whoever you disagree with
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Post by JohnnyRansom on Dec 18, 2002 17:52:14 GMT -5
i dont think i support either side...its not as simple as that
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Post by Roju on Dec 18, 2002 22:59:14 GMT -5
this post is right up there with "which is the one true religion?"
Wait! I haven't posted that thread yet!
Hah
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Post by The Lost Pirate on Dec 19, 2002 12:35:40 GMT -5
ok........i agree with johnny, i dont agree with either side. if you want an abortion thats your choice, you have to live with the consequences. same thing for if you decide not to...........then you have a kid
sorry if i cant SPELL
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Post by vanessa murder. on Dec 19, 2002 19:51:51 GMT -5
honestly i think prochoice is better.. i mean there's the CHOICE! better you decide yourself if you want the kid or not. i don't feel like being all feminist like but it's not like you can tell a girl what to do with her body.
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Post by Roju on Dec 19, 2002 20:44:32 GMT -5
I think you're forgetting that this is a "life" we are talking about... the persons body should not be put above the life of another (no matter how small). It is just selfish to think about ones body in a situation like that. And..yes, you do have a choice.... you can choose not to get pregnant (excluding rape). It's great to live in a culture that doesn't have to take responsibility for its actions.. after all, you can just abort them away. You can CHOOSE to be responsible.
I'm all for freedom of choice... responsible choice.
Now you can all tell me how ignorant I am and how antifeminist I am etc etc......
It saddens me at what disrespect and disregard we show for life. I guess Humans are disposable before they actually have a voice.
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Post by JohnnyRansom on Dec 19, 2002 21:08:57 GMT -5
well, i agree with you roju. i just hate to take away somebody's right to do that, although it really really saddens me and even angers me when people kill the little babies because they made some dumbass mistake
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Post by vanessa murder. on Dec 19, 2002 23:08:06 GMT -5
roju you're so antifeminist and ignorant kidding kidding! i guess it all comes down to personal choice, if you want to kill the kid, kill the kid, if you want the kid to live, have the damn baby. i'm just glad i don't have to make a decision like that any time soon.
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Post by Steve M on Dec 20, 2002 12:58:25 GMT -5
i said KILL so KILL
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Post by Steve M on Dec 20, 2002 13:00:39 GMT -5
i cant beleive no ones busted the religion point yet. whats going on... heathens!
isnt it funny how most xians are prolife and if you think about it god may be the most prochoice being there is?
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Post by nave on Dec 22, 2002 14:56:28 GMT -5
What's red, slimey, and crawls up your leg?
A homesick abortion!
Prochoice.
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Post by Steve M on Dec 23, 2002 15:43:54 GMT -5
all right kids, there was your cue for the most offensive and disgusting jokes you can think of... sexist, racist, fagist,... dont matter the new precident has been set word
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Post by Your mom on Dec 23, 2002 19:27:19 GMT -5
"honestly i think prochoice is better.. i mean there's the CHOICE! better you decide yourself if you want the kid or not. i don't feel like being all feminist like but it's not like you can tell a girl what to do with her body."
So are you prochoice for murder then. If someone decides that you being around isn't good, they have the choice to murder you?
If you don't want the kid, don't have sex...or at least not at a time when the female is fertile...there that solves your problem.
Even if it's rape, abortion is still murder...that's why there's adoption
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Post by SallyStalker on Dec 23, 2002 23:25:55 GMT -5
I don't like the terms that things are put into while discussing this topics. Pro-choice, pro-life... It makes it sound like pro-life is anti-choice (a term I simply despise). There are so many choices that lead up to conception that you can hardly say a person who is against abortion is anti-choice. There is the choice to have sex (obviously), the choice to use contraceptives, etc.
Though I feel the practice of abortion is a terrible thing, I would not lobby for it to be made illegal, because people would find other ways to do it if it were illegal. However, I would never make the choice to do it myself. But at the same time, I would not persecute anyone who made that choice for themselves. I find the practice of demonstrations outside abortion clinics appalling and it brings to mind the phrase "let he who is without sin cast the first stone". Some people probably do have abortions recklessly, seeing it as a form of birth control, but for others it is a very hard and torturous decision. We cannot possibly judge another's circumstances. To flippantly call people who have abortions murderers is insensitive and cruel. It is myopic. Again I bring forward John 8:7, "He who is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her". For those who don't have the Sunday school background, I suppose I ought to explain. There was a woman brought before Jesus by some people who said she was an adulterer and saying that she should be stoned, as the Law of Moses (Jewish commandments) said. His response I quoted above. Perhaps I sound like a bleeding heart liberal. I firmly state that I am morally opposed to abortion. I believe it is wrong. However, I do not believe it is my place to call people murderers or anything like that. I don't think we really know whether God considers abortion to be full out murder or not. We can only choose for ourselves how to best govern our own lives as we see fit. We must remember that the most important thing in life is to love everyone and have charity for all. Compassion, unconditional love.
I tend to consider myself to be a person who holds feminist values and I am morally opposed to abortion. Some may say this is a contradiction. I live this contradiction everyday. (Don't worry, I won't whip out my Kathleen Hannah quotes).
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Post by Steve M on Dec 27, 2002 15:17:12 GMT -5
if "they" say youre contradicting then they are fucked. this is not a place to be judged or judge, but to maybe find someone who you can have quality brain time with... half a brain or not
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