Patrick Wolf at Lee's

[Owen from Final Fantasy]

I don't have a problem with camera phones, politically

But as an aesthetic thing, they're TOTALLY LAAAAAME

Think about it:

Our internet life exists in the home, in the bedroom. It's meant to be a pale representation of "real life". (It isn't, it's so much more.)

But here you are at a Patrick's show, which is all about this beauty which is dirty and sweaty and broken and absolutely human and real.... and you're taking photos for your livejournal?

I just wanted to dance with somebody, myself. Next time, maybe, next time.

[pearl]

i understand, i just went to a show a yeah yeah yeahs show at a local skate festival thing, like five hours ago, but i couldn't see a thing because a lot of kids' camera phones were in the way. also too much moshing, crowd surfing, pushing to the front, and twelve year olds' big hair in the way. not that there's anything too wrong with big hair but when it's in my mouth it becomes a problem. sorry i'm still a bit bitter. kids these days. it makes me happy to hear you were at patrick's show though, i love seeing him live and will be doing so in two weeks, twelve days before i see you. if you happen to be at his show in LA i will dance with you, though i promise it will be rather awkward.

[meryl]

I CONCUR.

From a pettier point of view, there are already enough mediocre photographers on flickr without the addition of swathes of pixelated mess from cameraphones anyway. I usually just wait for the semi-professionals to upload theirs to, y'know, relive all the wonderful memories. Goodness knows Patrick Wolf is popular enough now.

[jules]

I'm not going to get into the digital debate, but I can see the problem and until someone invents a DRM blanket that can cover a venue we are all going to have to live with it.

I'd much rather go to a gig and enjoy myself and then find a good set of prints than jossle in a crowd waving my telecommunications device about.

Although if any of you snappers out there do happen to have cameraphone pictures of Owen dancing by himself................ joke, honest

On a lighter note....did Patrick wear the Mozart wig again?

[ariane]

camera phones are one thing...what really annoyed me when I saw mr wolf was the crowd or part of it.
hysterical. because of a guy who's my age. great. I respect him for what he's doing and I think he's good but he's not god XD
they threw glitter onto the stage, there was no barrier. soap bubbles. there was a mosh pit and I was in the middle of all this. dancing wasn't possible because you literally got pressed to whatever was in front of you. the glitter was funny, as were the bubbles.
it's just no fun having these inside your camera

I went to a gig in the same venue about a month or two after this. the glitter still stuck to the carpet on stage.

[Boy of Bark]

I have a phone

I have a camera

those 2 never married

I don't have a live Journal

I have a myspace

mostly for music

but I know what you mean it's very annoying. Camera phones don't take good pictures anyway....pixelated portrait.

;D

[victoria]

I have a camera....I brought my camera to the show last night. I took pictures. But it's not a camera phone. Also, I don't have a livejournal either.

And Patrick was one beautiful, dirty, sweaty mess last night and it was fabulous. And I danced! All night!

[Owen from Final Fantasy]

The number of camera phones was crazy, like, totally crazy. I wish owned a camera phone so I could've taken a picture.

I don't know his song titles so extremely well but I think it was the song Tristan, there were at least 75 phones filming. From a 250 person audience. I've never seen anything like it.

Good show, though, it was like a Brecht opera but without the communism.

[victoria]

Oh, the show was great! Set list was pretty much the same as the last one in Toronto though, give or take.

To be honest, people were probably filming during Tristan on the off-chance Patrick decided to take his clothes off. Then they might be featured on Perez Hilton. Pfft...

[sarpedon]

I saw Ted Leo, Broken Social Scene, and Belle and Sebastian (in that order) at an ampitheater and I bought tickets for the pit and was at the front, and a bunch of fucking preteens pushed to the front, and made Me and Mia sound like it had a kidz bop version, luckily none of them knew who broken social scene was so there were no sing alongs or camera phones, but they went fucking ape during belle and sebastian, screaming the words to every song and hold their camera phones where a normal persons head would be. Lucky B&S sucked, or else I would have wanted my money back. but BSS totally made it worth it, and their set was almost as long as the belle and sebastian, but ted leo only got like twenty minutes.

[maybe]

At least camera phones don't have flashes.
(They don't, right?)

[rue]

maybe said:

At least camera phones don't have flashes.
(They don't, right?)

Some do. And that makes them more annoying.

I go to feel and dance to the music. Sometimes, I take pictures with my camera, but it's not my phone, and I do my best not to block anyone's view. I'm also not rude. I think that needs to be addressed, too.

The DC show featured girls fighting for the front row. Fighting with their bodies. I deflected a purse with my elbow.

[IamFrostey]

Nothing's worse than the people who just stand there like dead logs near the stage. Being up close is for dancing, not standing there like a stump. I saw Animal Collective a few weeks back and so many people were being logs it was ridiculous.

[pearl]

aye i saw girl talk a couple weeks ago and everyone was dancing, even though the bros were humping, but right up at the front was this guy just standing with crossed arms. no head nodding even. i don't get it, do you go see girl talk to listen to the mashups and not dance? sorry it was just really really weird.
at my yeah yeah yeahs show some girl was like pushing to the front with her camera phone and just like EXCUSE ME in like a smiley snarky way and i punched her arm. perhaps not the smartest but it was how i felt. NO ONE MESSES WITH ME YO. and it wasn't a hard punch, i'm a weak girl. DON'T JUDGE ME LIKE THAT

[jollyness]

I don't know. I don't think we should judge how others like to enjoy a gig. Just cause it's different to yours doesn't mean its wrong. I'm getting a bit older now and I still like to go to the front, sometimes jumping about, sometimes standing still. Each to their own as long as it causes minimum disruption to others.

As for cameraphones being worse than cameras, thats just silly. What should it matter to one what medium they use to snap away.

Maybe people want to re-live the memory, maybe they don't go to many gigs and video/snaps will keep them happy till the next one. maybe they want to show it to their friends/impress their friends, maybe show their mum, maybe to post on the internet, who knows? Who cares.