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Post by t on Feb 4, 2005 12:26:19 GMT -5
theres still a lot to acomplish when it comes to equality for gays.. which is what i always thought le tigre is all about (rather than feminism) although i dont know much about le tigre.. i dont think of them as man haters.
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Post by Arkham on Feb 4, 2005 17:50:00 GMT -5
'woman is the nigger of the world' - john lennon
anyone ever see 'who shot andy warhol'?
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Post by lutinlutin on Feb 4, 2005 18:16:59 GMT -5
theres still a lot to acomplish when it comes to equality for gays.. which is what i always thought le tigre is all about (rather than feminism) although i dont know much about le tigre.. i dont think of them as man haters. you're right, its totally unfair for me to call them man haters when i dont know them personally, and the gay equality topic is a tough one, i think by exposing it, in an advertised way just makes it worse though, heterosexual people dont go around paradeing that they are straight, although they never had to fight for equality in the first place. on their website it made it seem like there was some sort of feminist club, and i just find it irritating how homosexuality has become a "Fad" i think its rediculous, wich brings you to the issue of wether people are born with that sexual preference, or if it is a psychological issue. i say its genetic. and there are plenty of amazing gay musicians and celebrities who have done alot for equal rights, and have gained respect for gay people without the whole "clique" impression that i got from le tigre. but on a better note, in an interview the girls from le tigre said they want to start writing their music more about strong women, rather than the asshole guy. wich is pretty much what i was hopeing for. ramble ramble ramble,.... not makes sense.... bad spelling...
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Post by Ruby Soho on Feb 4, 2005 18:38:12 GMT -5
what exactly are your example of man haters that are praised in the media? Hm, I think that I may have typed what I mean in the wrong way. Basically, when feminists are shown in the media it is not necessarily in a positive light (I didn't mean that man-haters were being praised by any means). And as for le tigre, they (I would think to an extent), come off as being man-haters. Or Monster, the movie based on the female serial murderer in the states. It may have been based on reality, but the fact of the matter is, it was a portrayal of extreme feminism by a man-hater. That is what much of society sees in the media, and it isn't always a good thing.
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Post by t on Feb 4, 2005 21:33:37 GMT -5
heterosexual people dont go around paradeing that they are straight, although they never had to fight for equality in the first place. its funny because as i read this.. i was also at www.straightpride.com !!
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Post by Arkham on Feb 5, 2005 11:40:03 GMT -5
that site is very propaganda-ish.
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Post by t on Feb 6, 2005 1:54:22 GMT -5
yeah, i spend so much time reading stuff like that
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Post by h on Feb 6, 2005 2:58:41 GMT -5
i wasn't implying you were what is the point in being proud of any kind of sexual orientation? it's like being proud of your favourite colour being blue can this really be trying to promote anything besides bigotry?
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Post by t on Feb 6, 2005 3:23:06 GMT -5
haha i wasnt being sarcastic.. i actually do!
i am not a fan of pride either.. but there arent people in the world that will tell you that you are wrong for liking blue.. or hate you for it
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Post by wgs on Feb 6, 2005 18:37:55 GMT -5
Or Monster, the movie based on the female serial murderer in the states. It may have been based on reality, but the fact of the matter is, it was a portrayal of extreme feminism by a man-hater. That is what much of society sees in the media, and it isn't always a good thing. hmm well i watched the documentary on this, and although she was completely insane, i think this would be an example of the "good kind of feminism" it was an example of fighting against the "womanizer" and how in the past women were seen as objects, ... leading to the great amount of female prostitutes we have today. as opposed to a woman leading a "modern age life" where she would have a "mans career" and so on, and still be a feminist, fighting for rights, .....liiike le tigre. what im trying to say is them being an all female band of lesbian icons, is an excellet form of feminism, to the point that they dont need to label a section of their website "feminism" as for the pride thing, you're right any and everyform of pride is no good.
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Post by wgs on Feb 6, 2005 18:41:30 GMT -5
haha what a coincidence but i think if it werent for the fact that these people hated homosexuals, they wouldnt have a website and t-shirts.. that makes me sick.
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Post by Arkham on Feb 7, 2005 0:57:41 GMT -5
too much crazy talk.
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Post by Walter on Feb 22, 2005 17:07:12 GMT -5
Where's my dinner bitch?
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Post by wgs on Mar 5, 2005 20:32:50 GMT -5
WALTER! I knew it was you!
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Post by neilsucks on Mar 5, 2005 21:03:47 GMT -5
if you squint you can tell it's tyler klassen.
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